Here are my all time top 5 ways of getting off smack
1. Going away to a hot country.
Take lots of valium (blue 10mls) and some subutex. You should start the valium before the withdrawals and then continue for the first 2 days. Then take a subutex which will remove the remaining gear but not make you feel sick like a naltroxone. Continue with the valium and take subutex for the next few days before stopping. In the mean time go out and have fun. The warm weather will mask the sweats plus you should have access to a nice swimming pool to cool down in and relax those muscles.
I have done this 3 times without discomfort. In fact twice I had normal holidays and didn't even notice the cluck. I may have been benzoed up but I got laid and got a sun tan as well as getting clean.
2. Methadone Reduction
Different people have different stories to tell with this one. I personally hate the juice and coming off it takes 3 times as long as coming off gear. If you can manage to reduce the juice very very slowly over a long period of time then you shouldn't notice the cluck too much. Try and switch to subutex when on a low dosage. I wouldn't recommend just stopping on 30ml or more unless you want to spend 2 weeks in bed rolling around like a pillsbury doughboy in a pool of sweat.
3. Subutex Switch
Stopping the gear and switching to Subutex. This is a tricky one as you have to get it right as if you take a subutex too early it can have naltroxone like effects. I used to pin them (not recommended) and never had any problems until one day it sent me to hell! Trying to pin a second one was also a very stupid thing to do. The first time I did subutex the doctor got the script wrong and instead of giving me 2mls gave me 0.2mls. I was clucking all weekend wondering why the fuck these pills were so shit. Thanks doc!
4. Naltroxone swallowed in the morning.
This is what Detox 5 and other inhouse quick detoxes do except they charge you thousands for it and keep your locked in a room. Taking a naltroxone with gear in your system is not a nice thing to do as it will kick any opiates in your body out there and then and its not a nice experience. However if you can get through the first 4 hours or so then it gets better and by the morning the worst of it will be over. You can try taking other pills to negate the horribleness but you will most likely just throw them back up as soon as the naltroxone kicks in. I have done this a few times when I needed to get clean very quick and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants as little pain as possible.
5. The old rattle and roll dry bare boned pill free cluck.
This method involves just stopping the gear and clucking it out. The best part of the cluck should be over by the fourth day but it will be four days of rolling from side to side with no concentration, no appetite and a depression of a thousand fore fathers to contemplate. As the pain increases in your body you will find your mind becoming more fine tuned. You will hear the birds singing and actually pay attention, you will feel the grit on your teeth and the clamminess of your skin once again. Lots of warm baths and brushing of the teeth will help and if you have someone to fuck then expel as much dirty water as possible as that most definitely helps.
Detox 5 and other magical detoxes
Coming off heroin is easy I've done it lots of times...
Smack addiction is not an easy habit to kick and no-one should ever believe those adverts that promise to get you clean pain free within 5 days. For a cost of £2.5k you will be locked in a room on a ward in a private "hospital" and for 4 and a half days force fed a little pot full of valium, quinine, britlofex and other pills every 2 hours whether you want them or not. Even if you're asleep you will be woken up to be given your meds along with a blood pressure test. On the Thursday at lunch time you will be given half a naltroxone tablet which will kick any remaining gear out your system and then you'll be offered a weetabix or two to eat. Friday lunch time you will have a little chat with the shrink to see if you have learnt your lesson given a couple months prescription of sleeping pills and out the door you go never to hear from them again.
If that sounds good to you then crack on but it doesn't work for most people. For one thing you're not asleep for the whole 5 days you just will have a hard time remembering going stir crazy, trying to break through then jump out the barred windows or getting strong armed back to your room when you go for a benzo induced wander to pass the time. Plus the after care is shit. Why, because there is no after care. As I said at the beginning coming of gear is the easy part its the staying off thats the hard part. You need support and help as soon as your clean and its very easy to just walk out of the detox center up to the nearset big issue seller and score a bag. Either that or walk straight into the nearest pub and go bang on the pop because its the only thing that will stop your legs shaking from the naltroxone.
Some people try the naltroxone implants and I myself have tried both the the 6 month implants (at a cost of £1200 at the time) and the pills which my Mum used to have to force down my throat every morning. I used to be clever and hide them under my tounge and then spit them out until one day I accidentally swallowed one. I had to wait til she had cleared off before going to the toilet and trying to force myself to throw it back up. No joy. Half an hour later pure hell began. If you have never ever wished death upon yourself to ease the pain of living then try taking a naltroxone with gear in your system. Having it fly out of both ends with adrenaline pumping round your body and the sudden rush of feelings both mental and physical that come flying back to you as the opiates are kicked off those receptors by the heavy DM boot wearing naltroxone is enough to make you wish for a quick end. I literally crawled the half mile to the nearest dealers house and smoked £50 worth of brown just to take the edge off.
If you can handle that sort of cluck then at least its quick. A 5 day cluck in one day with the worst part over in the first 3 hours (if you survive).
The implant although expensive is better than the pills for the following reason. Once you have it in you there is no way you can cheat yourself unlike the pills which you can avoid taking. Therefore I found that I thought about doing it less because I knew I couldn't unless I cut it out of my gut (and I know 2 people who have done just that). However every so often I would still try a boot to see if it had worn off and you will find some implants last 6months and others like my first one did lasted almost a year.
Also if your implant goes tits up which they often do then there is no money back from the Stapleford Centre or Detox 5. I know someone who a month after having the implant it started leaking its pellets into his gut. He was happy as it meant he could get a hit but his gut was infected and once he tried contacting them for a replacement they said he would have to pay.
Remember these Naltroxone implants haven't actually been approved properly by our health service and often they get impounded on entering the country due to their semi legal status.
However pills or implant if you are not ready to get off it then there is no point in even trying. Doing it for someone elses benefit like a girlfirend or family just means you will spend that time cheating and plotting a way back to the gear and £2,500 is a lot of money to spend just to go back on the gear at the end.
Another thing about naltroxone is the overdose effect. The only two times I have been to hospital due to overdosing it when I have had hits after stopping taking the naltroxone. You can stop the pills one day and bang up that day, the next day and the day after with no affect then on the fourth day you could have half a bag and go straight into a coma.
I also know some people who have done the Detox 5 trip to Spain in Alicante and been knocked out with injected meds and had the naltroxone implant sewn straight into their gut. They were supposed to be unconsious for the whole period but can remember going mad literally with the pain of the naltroxone kicking the smack out their brain literally. Once again does not remembering the event completley due to memory affecting meds actually equal a pain free experience>? No I don't think it does and nor did they.
So there you have it. Not a medical opinion but my opinion on the matter as someone who has tried most detox methods. As I said coming off smack is easy I've done it lots of times.
Smack addiction is not an easy habit to kick and no-one should ever believe those adverts that promise to get you clean pain free within 5 days. For a cost of £2.5k you will be locked in a room on a ward in a private "hospital" and for 4 and a half days force fed a little pot full of valium, quinine, britlofex and other pills every 2 hours whether you want them or not. Even if you're asleep you will be woken up to be given your meds along with a blood pressure test. On the Thursday at lunch time you will be given half a naltroxone tablet which will kick any remaining gear out your system and then you'll be offered a weetabix or two to eat. Friday lunch time you will have a little chat with the shrink to see if you have learnt your lesson given a couple months prescription of sleeping pills and out the door you go never to hear from them again.
If that sounds good to you then crack on but it doesn't work for most people. For one thing you're not asleep for the whole 5 days you just will have a hard time remembering going stir crazy, trying to break through then jump out the barred windows or getting strong armed back to your room when you go for a benzo induced wander to pass the time. Plus the after care is shit. Why, because there is no after care. As I said at the beginning coming of gear is the easy part its the staying off thats the hard part. You need support and help as soon as your clean and its very easy to just walk out of the detox center up to the nearset big issue seller and score a bag. Either that or walk straight into the nearest pub and go bang on the pop because its the only thing that will stop your legs shaking from the naltroxone.
Some people try the naltroxone implants and I myself have tried both the the 6 month implants (at a cost of £1200 at the time) and the pills which my Mum used to have to force down my throat every morning. I used to be clever and hide them under my tounge and then spit them out until one day I accidentally swallowed one. I had to wait til she had cleared off before going to the toilet and trying to force myself to throw it back up. No joy. Half an hour later pure hell began. If you have never ever wished death upon yourself to ease the pain of living then try taking a naltroxone with gear in your system. Having it fly out of both ends with adrenaline pumping round your body and the sudden rush of feelings both mental and physical that come flying back to you as the opiates are kicked off those receptors by the heavy DM boot wearing naltroxone is enough to make you wish for a quick end. I literally crawled the half mile to the nearest dealers house and smoked £50 worth of brown just to take the edge off.
If you can handle that sort of cluck then at least its quick. A 5 day cluck in one day with the worst part over in the first 3 hours (if you survive).
The implant although expensive is better than the pills for the following reason. Once you have it in you there is no way you can cheat yourself unlike the pills which you can avoid taking. Therefore I found that I thought about doing it less because I knew I couldn't unless I cut it out of my gut (and I know 2 people who have done just that). However every so often I would still try a boot to see if it had worn off and you will find some implants last 6months and others like my first one did lasted almost a year.
Also if your implant goes tits up which they often do then there is no money back from the Stapleford Centre or Detox 5. I know someone who a month after having the implant it started leaking its pellets into his gut. He was happy as it meant he could get a hit but his gut was infected and once he tried contacting them for a replacement they said he would have to pay.
Remember these Naltroxone implants haven't actually been approved properly by our health service and often they get impounded on entering the country due to their semi legal status.
However pills or implant if you are not ready to get off it then there is no point in even trying. Doing it for someone elses benefit like a girlfirend or family just means you will spend that time cheating and plotting a way back to the gear and £2,500 is a lot of money to spend just to go back on the gear at the end.
Another thing about naltroxone is the overdose effect. The only two times I have been to hospital due to overdosing it when I have had hits after stopping taking the naltroxone. You can stop the pills one day and bang up that day, the next day and the day after with no affect then on the fourth day you could have half a bag and go straight into a coma.
I also know some people who have done the Detox 5 trip to Spain in Alicante and been knocked out with injected meds and had the naltroxone implant sewn straight into their gut. They were supposed to be unconsious for the whole period but can remember going mad literally with the pain of the naltroxone kicking the smack out their brain literally. Once again does not remembering the event completley due to memory affecting meds actually equal a pain free experience>? No I don't think it does and nor did they.
So there you have it. Not a medical opinion but my opinion on the matter as someone who has tried most detox methods. As I said coming off smack is easy I've done it lots of times.
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